Saturday, July 18, 2015

Not Just Civilians!


In an ironic follow-up to my last post, a few days ago a covert Arab terrorist got into a military recruitment center in Chattanooga and shot up the place, killing five sailors and Marines, and wounding several others.  At least this time the local police  shot the vicious SOB before he could do more, or get away.  Again, the media are pumping the "tragedy", but this time they don't seem to have any target to aim the usual outrage at.

The killer was obviously a Jihadi, whether he was working for ISIL or not, and the media hint about his "radicalization" during his visits to the middle-east, but they stop short of saying the words "Arab terrorist".  Can't say that, no;  it's "racist".  Neither will they say the words "Muslim fundamentalist", because that might cause "religious persecution".  Uhuh.  No politically correct target there.

Worst, the classic target, guns, is totally off the board for this one.  Soldiers, Marines, and even sailors, are supposed to carry guns -- but this time, uncharacteristically, they didn't.  That's what made them vulnerable, and nobody can deny it.  Any Marine of a rank fit to work in a recruiting station, with so much as a pistol, could have drawn and shot the Jihadi thug the minute he started shooting, preventing at least four deaths and an unknown number of injuries -- and nobody can deny that, either.  The uniformed folk in that recruiting station weren't armed because the office was inside a commercial shopping mall, which bans such things.

A few of the media have made fleeting reference to the topic which is obviously absorbing the people of Chattanooga right now: that it's bad enough to disarm civilians in public, but the military too?  They're supposed to be armed and trained to protect the rest of us.  If our soldiers, Marines and sailors aren't fit to carry weapons, who on Earth is?  You can bet that the managers of that shopping mall are getting a lot of flak right now, either openly or behind the scenes, about their 'gun-free zone' policy.  I daresay that in a short while you won't see military recruiting stations with disarmed recruiters inside anymore.

And once active military is allowed to be armed, why not Reserves?  Why not active National Guard?  Why not veterans, who have obviously had training?  Why not civilians who have bothered to obtain state concealed-carry permits?  The pendulum is swinging back, at long last.  'Gun-free' zones are beginning to erode, and a few more Jihadi shoot-ups will finish them.

One can almost see the media mourning for their lost cause, and their lost influence.  Michael Moore should be crying in his beer.         

You can be sure the Marines won't cry.

--Leslie <;)))><  

 

11 comments:

Ori Pomerantz said...

It's not just the mall's fault. The military itself doesn't allow carrying while on official duty, unless approved by a Major or above.

Technomad said...

Michael Moore gives the honest Left a bad name. I happened to bring him up while talking to some very "Lefty" types at the last con I was at, and got an earful, mostly along the lines of "He's losing influence, thank God!"

Leslie Fish said...

Hi, Ori. I don't know what idiot general came up with that idea, but he should be stood up against a wall and shot. Once past basic training, military personnel should carry arms *at all times*, the better to fulfill their duty of protecting the citizenry at a moment's notice.

Hi, Tech. My chief complaint about Micheal Moore isn't just his stupid politics but that he's a *lousy propagandist*. His crude editing-tricks and outright lies are catching up to him, bit by bit, even among devout Lefties -- which is the choir he preaches to. Christ on a pogo-stick, I can do better with just my songs -- and I daresay I have. Next time we're together, ask me to sing "Aztec, Go Home".

Ori Pomerantz said...

According to Tom Kratman, not necessarily idiot. If there is an incident involving firearms (and eventually there would be one, statistically speaking), the career of the general in charge would be over. On the other hand, if soldiers are robbed or murdered off base, it isn't the base commander's fault.

Lt. Col. Tom Kratman (ret) has a much lower opinion of general officers and their moral fiber than most of us civilians. According to him, to get that high one has to be a spineless politician.

Ori Pomerantz said...

Here is what Tom Kratman wrote on the subject.

Leslie Fish said...

Amen! How many times have I said the training is what counts? It's absolutely scandalous that our military doesn't train better for shooting; what the hell else is their job supposed to be?

Ori Pomerantz said...

I think that in most cases it is either logistics (getting stuff where it needs to be) or maintenance. In the Navy and Air Force it is a pretty small minority that actually fights. In the Army it is a lot more, but they still need a lot of people who primarily maintain the tanks and jeeps, or drive trucks. Shooting may be required, but it isn't the main job.

Leslie Fish said...

True, but at any time they may be *called on* to fight, so they all damn-well need the training. For that matter, I think every American citizen should damn-well get the training. Hmmm, I've got to look up that Heinlein quote that ends in "Specialization is for insects."

Ori Pomerantz said...

True. It is a trade off - you want the cooks and drivers to be able to fight, but you have to balance the time you take training them against the time they are actually useful.

Technomad said...

A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.

-Robert A. Heinlein

Some of these I could do but have not had the occasion to, others I can do and have done, and as for dying gallantly---that's the last thing you'd find me doing. ;)

Leslie Fish said...

I can't program a computer, myself. Maybe I could substitute "change a tire".

--Leslie <;)))><